The L.A. Times (the newspaper in Los Angeles) recently created a huge controversy when they published the results of the ratings of different teachers. Teachers were judged by their students' test scores, along with some other criteria. Copy and paste the link to read and listen to the story.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129282823&ps=rs
Do you agree with this method of evaluating teachers? Please state whether you think this is fair or unfair and give at least one reason to support your answer. How do you, as a student, think that teachers should be evaluated? What is the best way to decide whether a teacher is doing a good job?
Remember you must respond to the questions, write 150 words, and comment on a classmate's response (unless you are the first one). This is due Friday, September 3, by midnight.
Everything has two sides. I will say doing this program it can improve the teaching quality. Everyone can see how the teacher is doing. Comparing with other teachers, and improve the teaching skills. But is not on students’ scores is depends on other things like style or something. Sometime a student have to adapt the teacher’s teaching style, but that is take long time, that was not good for study. Student can choose teacher who will be able to teach them better. I mean is not who is better or bad on teaching, only focus on style.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, more compare also will get more pressure. Teaching is not easy job, teacher needs do a lot of thing about teaching, they have many students, every student has different problems, teacher have to solve every students’ problems, so we can’t give them more pressure to compare with other teachers, it may not good for teaching. If teacher more focus on teaching data, that may reduce teaching quality.
In my opinion we can do some data to be public like style, class detail and how is the teacher teaching.
I think that it’s not fair to teachers that they are being judged on the tests results. I mean when you think about it, Student might be lazy or they might just don’t want to study. So basically it’s not the teacher’s fault. And I think it’s a good thing for the parents to know who is teaching their children but in the other hand, they can’t judge the teachers by the test scores. On my opinion, they can judge the teachers by putting a camera in his/her class. Because sometimes when parents show up and see how the class goes; Teachers could be pretend that they are the best teachers in this single class that the parents show up in. But cameras are they best way to judge teachers I think. I also think that it would be a huge problem if the parents decided who’s teaching their children. A lot of teachers are going to lose their jobs, but it’s for the best. And I think my point is the same point of "qifengzhao".
ReplyDeleteI think at first students should let most teachers to teach them, and then choose a teacher who is the most suit for himself. I believe this is very important, because if the teacher you don’t like and the teaching style don’t match you, you will lose the confidence to learn this subject. I don’t think that teachers’ working quality should due to the students’ score. Because students’ score can’t tell people everything, including the teachers’ working quality. When the student take exam, a lot of causes would infused the score, such as the emotions, the health, the environment, the equipment , all of these will make the student to get the score which is not very well. What I want to say is I think people should be evaluated, but not depend on students’ score. I mean students’ score is one part, not the whole rule. In fact, I think watch the public class and a annual meeting are also a good way to evaluate teachers.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this method. Actually, I believe that the most problem come from teachers. And We know that if a teacher has committed a mistake, many of students will be affected by this error, while if student has fault, the only one who will be affected is himself. If you look at scours of some students you will find that they got high scours in some classes and very low scours in the others. And that happened to me before and I know whether I like the teacher I’ll love his/her class and material and I’ll also get a high scours. And when you compare students from different schools you’ll get the picture I’m talking about. I remember when I meet with my friend and talking about school, classes and material and some lessons I find that they are explained by different way sometimes the way that their teacher explained be Stupid way. Teacher should be evaluated. I agree with Yaser that putting cameras will be helpful.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think now that someone could be a teacher that must have been passed the examination, step by step, experienced professional training and have a lot of knowledges that know how to be a teacher. It's not very easy to be a teacher and it's not you would like to become a teacher that you will be able to become a teacher. So it must be recognized bo become a teacher that we shoule believe them. For this reason, I don't agree with this method. It's too unfair to teachers I think. As a teacher I think they know they should be a good example of students, therefore, only the students themselves don't want to study. Teachers are not god, they only can teach you what is wrong or right and what is useful to student or what students should do. But, if a student don't want to learn, we can say is that the teachers' problem? Absouately not! It' s so unfair. Maybe Yaser's method is ok, putting a camera in classroom will be helpful.
ReplyDeleteI do not agree with this method of evaluating the teachers and it is not fair to them to be evaluated by this way.
ReplyDeleteIf the student did not do well on his test that does not mean that the teacher is not doing a good job and he dose not know how to explain the material to them. It is not the teacher fault if the student does not care or even does not do his best on the class.
I think the best way to evaluate the teacher is to have someone set with the teacher in the class and see what the teacher do with the student. Another way to evaluate them is to have a test for the teacher every year to check if the teacher knows enough technics to teach the students or not.
With these two ways I think you can decide if the teacher is a good teacher or not.
As most of our classmates, I don’t agree with this method, it's unfair for the teachers at all especially if the students didn’t have desire to learn. There are a lot of other helpful ways to evaluate the teachers and may be the students' scores will be a part of evaluation, but not the basic or the whole part. The materials that the teachers use, type of assignments that the teachers give students, communication between the teachers and their students, the alacrity of the teachers are other ways to evaluate the teachers as well as attend the teachers' class and see how they teach or response to their students and their questions. So, the students' scores is not an indication for the success of the teachers or not because as Lisa said there are other factors which can influence the scores of students, but it can be used as a part of the whole evaluation.
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I read and listen to” 'L.A. Times' Series Examines Teacher Ratings” story which is about;
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In fact, a good thing about this project is making steps to think about evaluation teachers but it is not good when you think about publishing teacher’s name with their scores. The bad thing about this project is who is going to evaluate the teachers. Is the principle will do the evaluation? Is the student will do the evaluation? Also, will be so
difficult to know what is the best teacher would be?
I am agree with this mouthed. Be up to students and parents to know his or her teachers. As you know every parents want their children study with moral teacher and has experience. It is fair because the student should not have the right to evaluate the teachers the same way teachers evaluate the student. The teachers should be evaluating by teaching method and his or her behavior. The best way to decide teachers is decide teachers by professional committee and students.
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ibrahim
I am robustly agreed with this method. Be up to students and parents to know his or her teachers. As you know every parents want their children study with moral teacher and has experience. It is fair because the student should not have the right to evaluate the teachers the same way teachers evaluate the student. The teachers should be evaluating by teaching method and his or her behavior. I agree with Saud that “I think the best way to evaluate the teacher is to have someone set with the teacher in the class and see what the teacher do with the student.” The best way to decide teachers is decide teachers by professional committee and students.
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ibrahim
In my opinion, I agree with this method of evaluating teachers, because this evaluation has been related to different kinds of standards giving teachers the useful feedback on class, giving the opportunity to learn new teaching techniques and counsel. How to be the best teacher? The students have the right to choose, to put forward the opinion, to make reasonable evaluation, I think this is fair with this research of teachers. It is very important to teachers, because some people believe that the research or process can help teacher improve their jobs and good for the students. Then if it is necessary to pick the best teacher, the students will chose a teacher who is the best accommodate for him. Also, sometimes, some students do not like a teacher; the teacher will lose assurance to this class. The teachers’ evaluations improve the teachers’ competence and ability to communicate with students.
ReplyDeleteI agree in a way, if the results of the teacher's evaluation are just showing in the same school, and not publicly. So they don’t get affected by some unprofessional opinions that will hurt their names in the future. Also if this method was done, all the teachers at school will try to compete with each other to get a higher rating at the end of the year. But this evaluation will only be in the school itself. And I think for evaluation the teachers should be fair, with knowing all the true reasons that made the student give the teacher a low rate. Also in my opinion that if the teacher is getting a great evaluation annually then it is a good true sign of a great teacher doing a great job in his class. Yasser had an impressive point in his idea with the cameras.
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This response is from Sarah:
ReplyDeleteI agree with Yaser, that it’s not fair to judge the teachers by the test score because maybe the students were not study. On the other hand, I disagree with him about putting a camera in the class to judgment the teachers!!!. o.0 I don’t think it requires to causing them to feel under stress (teachers are humans).
Also, I disagree with Muhannad when he said that most problems come from the teacher!! Muhannad, they spend their time to teach their students and they also continue their work at home!!! I think teaching is a stressful career and the most problems come from the students not from the teachers o.0 , but I agree with you that the teachers should be evaluated.
I think that the teachers should do evaluations to evaluate themselves then find their problems and trying to solve the problems. I think it’s better if they try to find their problems by themselves. Also, they really need a reward from the school Administrator because of their successful effort ^_*